'You don’t need to know the right words - anything’s better than silence’ 

In this episode, Lynne Innes talks to Mark Evans, Head of Service for Spiritual Care and Bereavement Services, NHS Lothian / Professional Advisor for Spiritual Care, Scottish Government who reflects on his own personal loss and how this loss reshaped his understanding of grief. Mark discusses ‘bereavement as a kaleidoscope’, the importance of simply ‘being there’ and how we often overlook that the person who is dying is also grieving.

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A transcript for this podcast can be found here.